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  Creative day 7000 years, is this correct and how did the Org come up with this idea?

  by Crazyguy in

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  any body know?

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  @ BluesBrother

  So now "Science" is to be allowed to determine the length of a Creative Day...Curious and curiouser ....
  

  "Creative days" are not usually the subject of scientific research. I would guess that the only "scientists" working to assign them a length are ones that already agree with Jehovah's Witnesses and the Genesis account of creation.

  Jehovah's Witnesses have always stated that their interpretation of Genesis is entirely consistent with "true science" while teaching that each creative "day" was only "thousands" of years long.

  Besides, we know JWs reject most of natural history from their teachings on other subjects, like the order of creation, flood, water canopy, mammoths, dinosaurs, fossils, radiometric dating, and so on...
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  Creative day 7000 years, is this correct and how did the Org come up with this idea?

  by Crazyguy in

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  any body know?

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  I collected all the relevant WT quotes I could find here:

  
  CREATIVE DAYS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?
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  Wooly Mammoths

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a jw came to my door a while back and used wooly mammoths as evidence for noah's flood.

  he was a bit older, so i thought this must be some oddball out-of-date teaching of jehovah's witnesses.

  i could remember something in the insight book about frozen mammoths, but not much else.

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  Well, my guy simply said that long hair on mammoths was for the same reason that some animals in Africa have long hair today, which is... well, I doubt he knows.
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  Wooly Mammoths

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a jw came to my door a while back and used wooly mammoths as evidence for noah's flood.

  he was a bit older, so i thought this must be some oddball out-of-date teaching of jehovah's witnesses.

  i could remember something in the insight book about frozen mammoths, but not much else.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  A JW came to my door a while back and used wooly mammoths as evidence for Noah's flood. He was a bit older, so I thought this must be some oddball out-of-date teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses. I could remember something in the Insight book about frozen mammoths, but not much else. WELL, was I ever wrong. JWs have published more on wooly mammoths than (I think) any other extinct animal. They've really hung themselves on this one.

  So, yesterday, I set about collecting every single quote I could find on the WT CDROM and made a page on my website devoted entirely to wooly mammoths:

  
  WOOLY MAMMOTHS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  Have fun! ... and let me know if Ive missed anything...
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  Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

  witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

  -they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

  not all of them were of gigantic size.

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  @ DATA-DOG

  To be clear, you are right, they do not claim to know exactly how long the creative days were (as they once did). Since the 1990s they have used words like "indefinite" and "unknown" to describe them. However, at precisely the same time, in other articles, they use the more limiting expression "thousands" of years.

  "Indefinite" or "unknown" does not contradict "thousands" of years. Most importantly it does not contradict the notion of approximately 7000 years, as indicated last in 1998.

  JWs should be called to account for their real beliefs - even the ones they are trying to hide behind vague language.
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  Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

  -they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

  not all of them were of gigantic size.

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  @ DATA-DOG

  I collected all the Watchtower quotes I could find on creative days here:

  
  CREATIVE DAYS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

  They have stated the "thousands" of years idea as late as 2014. In 1998 they told us exactly what it means: 7000-ish years, inferred from the length of creative day seven.

  Scientists are finding very interesting residue within dinosaur fossils. I could only refer you to the scientific literature for more information. Being 70million or more years old, however, rules out the ability to carbon date. Remember, carbon dating is based on the ratio of carbon12 and carbon14, but after that much time, there is no detectable carbon14 left.
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  Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

  -they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

  not all of them were of gigantic size.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  I collected all the dinosaur-related Watchtower quotes I could find here:

  
  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

  I think there's a case to be made that they still condone this kind of thinking.
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  Hodgkins Lymphoma Returns

  by azor in

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  2. medical

  my sister was diagnosed with hodgkins lymphoma earlier this year.

  we thought treatment worked as she finished her chemo treatment a month ago.

  i just got a call from her that she has lumps on her legs and she has been extraordinarily tired.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Hi Azor,

  I just went through stage IV Hodgkin Lymphoma. Obviously, I don't know if this is the case with your sister, but I still have many symptoms even though I have been repeatedly scanned and I am cancer free.

  Also, it's not particularity common for blood to be an issue with Hodgkins... I had to take white-cell boosters by injection, but never any blood transfusions or blood products. So, hopefully blood will not be an issue?

  Cheers,
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  Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

  if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

  send as many details as you can recall.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  See my post for one more:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289351/reality-refusing-blood-happened
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  Raining before the Flood?

  by GrownMidget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember at my teen years when i was studying with a brother that he said to me that there was no rain before the flood.

  instead there was this mist that you have.

  never before or after this have i heard something like this.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  All references to the "water canopy", "vapour canopy", "heavenly ocean", etc... can be found here:

  MAGIC SKY OCEAN